MikeFromFR

This is the Weblog of Mike from FreeRepublic.com, the head of the Christian Supporters of Israel list there. Just another rower down in the hold of the juggernaut which is the American Evangelical Christian support of Israel.

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Thursday, May 27, 2004

Albright, Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, et. al.

Ex-Clinton Secretary of State Madeline Albright was in the news recently, partnering up with Pelosi and the gang in the Democrat terrorist sympathizers' bid to undermine President Bush's war on radical Islamic terrorism. She was pontificating, and I quote from the 25 May 2004 AP story:



"When I was Secretary of State, I had all my partisan instincts surgically removed. ... They have really grown back, because I have never seen the United States in a more difficult position — I am appalled at how we are viewed internationally now."



Oh, please.


During the Clinton years America was nothing more than a punching bag for Islamic fascists worldwide; a "good ol' boy" paper tiger under the UN village mentality of the Clinton White House, where we "dialogued" with al Queda killers in a goofy bid to "understand their anger against us."


The Bush Team cut through all the goofy, feel-good nonsense that was getting innocent Americans killed and met these terrorists on the battlefield of Jihadistan right in their own back yard.


I still recall the sight of those two Marine Corps M1 Abrahm tanks on that bridge in Baghdad slugging it out with seperate targets off screen, while watching the news, and having a great feeling of relief that we were finally going toe-to-toe with these thugs.


And Madeline is now "appalled" at how we are viewed internationally.


Maddy, it's called respect and deterrence, and yes, FEAR. We, at least I, don't care what people think about us. No matter what we do, the world will think the worst, just like they treat the Israelis. They respect us. That's what keeps our citizens from being killed by these psychos. Get it?


Probably not. Appeasers are like this. Too closed minded in their elitist, utopian globalist views to see reality.

Wednesday, May 19, 2004

Three Girls, Three Graves, One Torah

A favorite Jewish writer Daniel Gordis recently wrote this one, Three Girls, Three Graves, One Torah. I have often said that below the external politics and fractious nature of Jewish culture in Israel as well as the Forger's Hammer of Islamic terrorism, the Lord is working in the very heart and soul of the children of Israel. A quote:



"That's why the highly divisive society called Israel doesn't depress me. And it's why the histrionic headlines emblazoned across each morning's newspaper do not exasperate me. Because the divisiveness and the infighting, as exhausting as they can be, are often, it seems to me, about a wounded but recovering people still trying to figure out what it wants to be when, one day, it recovers from its wounds. It would be hard to imagine that the healing could come any faster than it is. And it would be hard for me to imagine something more important to argue about."


This article is a good example of that.


To the enemies of Israel and the Jews: You can't ever win. Just give up.

I Got Frenchie Hate Mail.

I've been actively involved in the Internet arena of the War of Ideas in the battle against radical Islam for some time now. My America At War site has experienced an ever increasing flow of traffic from across the globe.


Interesting thing is, I haven't had much hate mail in the almost three years since 9/11!


Today, I received a nasty little screed from a French (gasp!) reader with the header "Are You Serious?" who purported to be a Christian like me. "You're full of hate," and "I'm shocked, just shocked," blah, blah, blah. Nothing about Islamic terror and the facts of the real world we live in today.


I don't spend time debating with such self-righteous, blind individuals, especially French dhimmis who are living under the boot of Islamic extremism because of the Muslim majority in that country. Poor suckers.


But someone noticed! It's nice to know me and mine are being effective.

Thursday, May 13, 2004

AMERICAN EVANGELICAL POWER BROKERS

Partner SJackson posts this riot at FR from a purported "American" in Yemen. After all these years, we thought it was the Jews running America.


Ahhh, the responsibilities of totalitarianism under the leadership of the radical Billy Graham!


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American Evangelicals, not Jews, are real power brokers


I am an American who reads the Yemen Times from time to time. I’ve been reading it more often as of late because I am preparing to move to Sana’a. As to your article on Kerry and Bush and who “loves Israel” more, I would like to offer a few comments if you would indulge.

Your main point on the influence that Jews have in America is well taken. Their political power in Washington is immense, no question about it. The American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) has so much power that it is known in D.C. as simply, “the lobby”, and anyone who challenges it risks their very political lives.

It funds congressional members in both the Senate and the House of Representatives on both sides of the “isle”, ie. Democrats and Republicans, so that no matter which party is in power, the “power behind the throne” is always right there.

That being said, I think that you missed on a key factor (and I need to tell you that I don’t know if you have addressed this in the past or plan on doing so in the future), which is the “Religious Right” - the Christians. The Christians are the true scourge of the Palestinians - not the Jews - and they are the chief supporters of Israel, politically, financially, and morally.

This is because while Catholic Christians are the single biggest body of An-Nasara fii Amreeka, they do not hold the true power. The true power is held by Protestant Evangelical Christians. This is the perpetual death blow for the poor Palestinians.

In America, the only people aside from the Arab and other Muslims that puts forth a steady and respected voice for Palestinian rights and self determination are, in fact, Jews. There is absolutely no sympathy for the Palestinians from the Christian Right. None, whatsoever. You mentioned the political power and influence of the Jews in Washington and, again, you are correct, but, look at the power of the Christians. There are about 5-7 million Jews living in the United States, and they are mostly a Democratic Party voting block.

The Evangelical Christians, under the leadership of such figures as Billy and Franklin Graham, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and other radicals, are a block of 75 million people and over 45,000 churches. These religious figures that I have mentioned are the most prominent, the most powerful - not forgetting Ralph Reid who is another leader and a top political operative for the Bush administration - and they have all spewed vicious lies and propoganda against Arabs, Islam, and the Prophet Muhammad.

Around 70% of these people are Republicans and they support Israel 100% in all matters, regardless of what the situation is and regard the Palestinians as a totally unworthy people, undeserving of statehood or any degree of self determination.

They are absolutely identical to the Likudniks, no doubt. They believe that every inch of Palestine belongs to the Jews - given by God - and that the Palestinians should be treated just like the Canaanites were in the Old Testament book of Joshua who were mercilessly wiped out of the land by the ancient Israelites.

So why this staunchly uniform support for Israel by the powerful Evangelicals? For this answer we must turn to Protestant eschatalogical belief. As a former Protestant myself, I know a little about this, and it’s frightening. You see, even though the Evangelicals love and blindly support the state of Israel, they don’t care a wink about the Jews. They believe the Jews are doomed in fact, within the greater Christian context that anyone who doesn’t believe in exactly what they believe in will burn in hell, end of story.

Christians believe that in the end times Jesus will return to the earth - kind of like the Muslims, but not really - and usher in the “Kingdom of God”. The sticking point though is that this is not possible until the great ingathering of all the dispersed Jews everywhere in the world back into Israel. This is critical to understand.

The massive Christian support of Israel in America - which in my opinion is far, far greater than any Jewish influence - has nothing to do with any particular affinity for Jews, or for the modern concept of “Israel” as a Jewish homeland for that matter when you get right down to it.

Rather, they want all the Palestinians either rounded up in concentrated areas or driven out of the West Bank and Ghaza altogether and replaced by all of the Jews from all over the world so that the return of Jesus will be possible.

Here’s the kicker for the Jews though. They’ll be wiped out of existence, at least according to some Evangelicals. They believe - fervently - that when Jesus returns there will be a great apocalyptic battle at a place called “Armageddon” which, I think, is somewhere around northern Israel/southern Lebanon, and one interpretation of the end result is that in this battle 2/3 of the world’s Jews will be killed and the remaining 1/3 will be converted to Christianity, thus ending them as a people, entirely.

So Jewish influence is, as you said, profound, but the real enemy, the real engine behind America’s ridiculous and shameful support of oppression vis-a-vis this issue, are the Evangelicals. Bush is the most outwardly religious Evangelical Christian President this country has ever seen, ferociously dedicated to his religion. Kerry is a very moderate and liberal Catholic. So I don’t know which of the two “loves Israel” more, but I’m pretty sure I know which one Israel loves more.


Wednesday, May 12, 2004

Motives and visions of Apocolypse!

Got into it at FR today, post 10, concerning the motives of Evangelical Christian support of the Nation of Israel. Just had to get in the middle of this one (check the threads for context). See below.


Fellow FReeper Judicial Meanz and partner in arms in the War of Ideas than got in the Arena on a monster thread relating to the same subject and delivered a very insightful historical commentary relating to the divisions in christendom over the ages and how persecution against the Jews by "Christians" impacts the way they view us today, which I just had to save for posterity. See that one below mine.


Thanks again, JM. You're always there in behalf of the Truth. Must just be a Divine Providence thing, eh?


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Yoni, buddy, I guarantee you the Israeli government knows exactly who their friends are.

The Evangelical Christian community I live with and all related organizations that community is affiliated with have no problems traveling in and out of Israel, nor do they meet any resistance whatsoever in their temporal ministry to the Jewish Nation.

Go to that site antisocial provided and head directly to the links page. That'll give you pretty good insight into what they are all about and where they are coming from. Any "Christian" group that would provide a direct link to the PA homepage or the World Council of Churches (which is simply a spiritual "tower of Babel") is, as thoughtomator stated, a "peace idolater" and no part of Him.

In the letter to President Bush, I don't recognize the name of one single signatory as anybody of significance in advocacy of the concerns of Israel, and a mess of religious institutions catering to the whims and notions of men, and not of G-d. Well, like the Unitarians (the Quik-E-Mart® of dead religious variety).

Yoni, the heart of HaShem is for His people Israel, as evidenced in His Word, the revelation of His character. Bible believing Christians (theological differences between the Jews and Christians duly acknowledged) purport to model His character, love, and grace. Therefore, their heart also should mirror that same great love for His people Israel. It just should.

As for those killing them, shooting them, blowing them up, threatening to wipe them off the face of the planet, hating them, or simply modeling an ambivalent attitude and adherence to humanist man-centered ambiguous notions of "peace" by negotiating with Israel's—and America's—sworn enemies who have no intentions whatsoever of accepting the Jews and letting them live in peace, well...

THEY NEED TO REPENT!

This is, I believe, the foundation of Christian support of Israel and the Jewish people living again in their G-d ordained land.


posted at FR by Salem


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You have hit a critically important part of the equation.

There are two divisions in Christianity that tend to get grouped together when a non Christian is examining Christianity.

There are the European Protestants who were persecuted with vigor by a lot of other segments of the Christian Church.

Before they were called Protestants, they were called heretics.They go back all the way to the 100 AD church and still exist to this day. They wanted to read the Bible and live strictly according to Gods laws as stated in the Bible. They had an oral tradition, and believed they were descended from the biblical nation of Israel.

They rejected sacraments, opposed the use of images (icons)and believed in freedom and liberty as proclaimed by God to be spread among the nations. For this offense, Protestants were burned at the stake, beheaded, and otherwise executed.

They consisted of the Lollards in 14th century England, the Hussites in 15th century Bohemia, Lutherans, Calvinists, Anglicans, Anabaptists. They chiefly focussed on translating and circulating copies of the Bible. They endured the Inquisition, St Bartholomews Day massacre in 1572 Spain, and the Spanish-British wars of the 1500-1600's.

The Protestants and Jews were persecuted by the same Christian factions for many of the same reasons, including guilt by association. Protestants were massacred by Crusaders during the Crusades the same as Jews. Actually, the Crusaders killed a higher percentage of Protestants than Jews.

The United States was the first country in history to give Jews equal citizenship. Jews fought in the American Revolution, and a Jewish financier named Judah Benjamin supported this Revolution with his fortune. America is a combined Jewish-Protestant effort, folks.

Protestants and Jews share many common denominators. I think this is why American Christians support Israel more than anyone else, and why we respect Jews as we do.


posted at FR by Judicial Meanz

Monday, May 10, 2004

The Hatuel family of Gush Katif

The cold-blooded murder of the Hatuel family of Gush Katif will prove to be another defining event in the history of modern Israel. The "Palistinians" continue to deceive themselves if they think this type of thing will bring them any closer to their objectives.

David and Tali Hatuel and family in happier times.


They deceive themselves because, "Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according to thine anger, and according to thine envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when I have judged thee. And thou shalt know that I am the LORD, and that I have heard all thy blasphemies which thou hast spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, They are laid desolate, they are given us to consume. Thus with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them. Thus saith the Lord GOD; When the whole earth rejoiceth, I will make thee desolate. As thou didst rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O mount Seir, and all Idumea, even all of it: and they shall know that I am the LORD." (Ezekial 35:11-15)

Fundie Leftie Perfessor

This is a letter a retired Fundie Leftie perfessor from a local university sent to our local paper. They gave her a prominent place on the Open Forum OpEd page. My response is below it.

Funny thing is, they didn't print mine!

Shocking. Just shocking.

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Liberals on campus? Of course, because they think

I read with incredulity the panic-filled news analysis claiming that university campuses are teeming with liberal professors (The Press-Enterprise, May 2). As a retired professor from the Cal State University system, I agree that "liberals" dominate most university faculties.

First of all, the term "liberal" seems to have taken on the same connotation as "communist" in the 1950s and early 1960s. The label "conservative," too, has taken on a new life and no longer evokes intellectuals such as William F. Buckley Jr. and Barry Goldwater.

Reasoning and thinking are skills found in properly educated people, whether they are liberal, conservative or middle-of-the-roaders.

Such individuals research and consider before making decisions on issues.

The common connotations of liberal and conservative have changed radically. Simply said, conservatives today are loyal, flag-waving supporters of the Bush administration and all its actions and policies. Those who disagree are dirty, disloyal, unpatriotic liberals.

This stance is causing quite a bit of confusion among intellectuals. Old-definition conservatives who do not back the present administration find themselves grouped with unpatriotic liberals. These conservatives have no idea how this happened. On the other hand, we liberals who have been teachers and have taken active parts in our government and its policies are also deemed unpatriotic. This seems kind of strange to me.

I hate the blanket condemnation of dissenters: when they were called communists and put on black lists and persecuted; when we were called freaks for opposing the Vietnam conflict and put on enemies' lists; and now when we are called "liberals" because we oppose Bush's crooked policies and have to worry about homeland security measures.

I'm beginning to wonder what is happening to the First Amendment and the Constitution in general.

No matter the guise, name-calling is a form of unpatriotic propaganda used to take the place of reason. That's a label that can be applied "liberally."

So back to the college campuses, people who have doctorates have been trained to reason, and in this day and time that has come to mean liberal. Yipes! Neoconservatives may find educating their children may expose them to new methods of thinking contrary to their beliefs.

But perish the thought: Various religious denominations maintain colleges that don't even teach evolution or any opposing theories but their own.

Send them there.

BARBARA PUGH

Mira Loma

PE.com

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Subj: Re: Liberals on campus? Of course, because they think
Date: 5/7/04
To: letters@pe.net (The Press-Enterprise), staff@campus-watch.org (Campus Watch)


Editor - The Press-Enterprise:

Barbara Pugh's letter (Press-Enterprise May 7) is instructive in the current thinking of Liberalism in the UC system, if not American academia on the whole. The writer's evident intellectual elitism aside, the presupposition she is right, and her doctorate and current leftist hegemony on campus proves it, is disturbing.

Rather than reasoning and open debate, the intellectual coercion and intimidation modeled by liberalism and radical leftism on campus is to be credited.

A case in point: respected Conservative Professor Daniel Pipes, Director of The Middle East Forum and a member of the United States Institute of Peace, was invited by the Israel Action Committee and Berkeley Hillel to speak at UC-Berkeley, Feb. 10, 2004, but was subsequently subjected to an overt campaign of disruption and disorder by "activists," and I use that term sparingly, in a bid to muzzle him. Conduct like this on UC campuses towards Conservative ideas and students who have the temerity to disagree with their radical professors has become the rule, and not the exception.

This is academic freedom, the idea that assumes no one outlook has the monopoly on truth and that truth emerges from professional debate? No, this is tyranny, the conduct of liberal ideologues, and not intellectuals.

Those who have been fortunate enough to escape the indoctrination—uh, "training to reason" and "proper education," of the academically unbalanced UC system and other American universities have remained silent much too long in the face of this bullying and coercion under the guise of academia. If anything, the repercussions of the failed social, economic, and political philosophies of liberalism are now being faced full force by the citizens of California—the outworking of our state's institutes of "higher learning."

But this is changing. The objective, reasoned, analytical and critical conclusions drawn by the majority is seeing to that.

Mike ~

Bush Apology Sparks Torrent of Global Goodwill (Humor)

All in good fun. I don't think it would have lasted long at FR. Found it here: http://iowahawk.typepad.com/

IMAMS: "YOU HAD US AT 'SORRY'"

Washington - The recent apology of US President George W. Bush for abuses by American military prison guards continued to reverberate around the globe today, as the White House was again inundated with with a flurry of "apology accepted" notes from world media, governmental leaders, and Islamic fundamentalist clerics.

Typical of the responses was a personal note from Syrian president Bashar Al-Assad, who wrote "aww, dude, you know I can't stay mad at you," saying that the apology had prompted him to immediately dismantle his country's secret nuclear weapons program. In a postscript, Assad added, "good luck to the Rangers this year."

"Now was that so hard?" joked Palestinian leader Yassir Arafat in an email to Bush. "Now get out of here ya knucklehead, before we have to do one of those awkward man-hugs."

The apology also prompted an outbreak of gratitude in the Arab street, as hundreds of thousands of Muslims took to the streets Friday in an impromptu demonstration of thanks. In Gaza, a cheering crowd estimated at 30,000 waved American flags and banners reading "No Prablem Bosh" [sic], while in Damascus throngs gathered in the Square of the Martyrs chanting "U-S-A, U-S-A".

"I used to dream about dying in a glorious fireball of martyrdom," said Ali Ahmed Amoud, 23, a marcher in the first annual Infidel Appreciation Days parade in Nablus. "But that apology was so nice and sincere, it just seems kind of petty to keep nursing a grudge."

In Tehran, the ruling council of Iranian clerics ordered a "national day of celebration and family fun" to commemorate the historic apology. "The Great Satan has given our honor back, so it's time to move on and let bygones be bygones," said Ayatollah Rafinstani in a nationwide radio address. Rafinstani also announced Iran's immediate nuclear disarmament, and cautioned celebrants not to drink and drive.

In Cairo, local clerics were equally enthusiastic and appreciative of Bush's gesture. In his weekly Friday sermon, Egyptian Imam Muqtaba Salim urged followers to show their appreciation by "reaching out and hugging a Zionist."

"Sure, they're a little pushy and abrasive, but c'mon guys -- let's take a deep breath and count to ten before we go all 'martydom operations,'" said Salim.

Perhaps the biggest reaction to the Bush apology occured in Saudi Arabia, where leaders of the fundamentalist Wahabbist sect issued a rare commendation of the president.

"It's just been such a catharsis for all of us," said Imam Abdelkarim Matwalli, prayer leader of the Grand Mosque in Medina, choking back emotion. "All we really ever wanted was a simple 'I'm sorry,' and Mr. Bush delivered. Thank you, America."

The president's apology was no less well-received in Europe, with dozens of newspapers blaring effusive, pro-Bush headlines. The Parisienne Le Monde declared "All Is Forgiven, George" while the Manchester Guardian lionized Bush as "an Apologizer for the Ages"; the tabloid Sun carried a simple "Dubya, We Lubya" above a flattering photo of the president festooned with garlands.

The apology also appeared to have created a thaw in the United States' sometimes icy relationship with continental political leaders. French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhardt Schroeder issued a joint communique welcoming the United States "back in the fold of civilized nations," and vowed to introduce a UN resolution asserting the US right to exist, following scheduled week-long pro-Bush demonstrations across Europe.

Newly elected Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Zapatero also commended the President's contrition, and said that "I would gladly once again pledge Spanish troops to the War on Terror, if the whole terror thing ever becomes a problem again."

Domestic reaction was generally favorable, led by Congressional Democrats who drafted a resolution prasing the President's "bold, thoughtful groveling for world peace," and calling on Bush to "stop beating yourself up." Progressive websites such as DemocraticUnderground, Daily Kos and BartCop urged readers to "forgive, forget, and send a nice thank you card to the White House."

Despite the outbreak of world geopolitical harmony, not everyone was satisfied with Bush's overture. In a scathing OpEd in today's New York Times, columnist Thomas Friedman demanded an additional apology from the President.

"Fess up, Mr. Bush," said Friedman, "that was my idea."